Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!caip!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ucbvax!ucdavis!samira!kahless From: kahless@samira.UUCP (Lord Kahless) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: Use of ``vi'' for business office word-processing Message-ID: <33@samira.UUCP> Date: Sat, 13-Sep-86 02:27:40 EDT Article-I.D.: samira.33 Posted: Sat Sep 13 02:27:40 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 14-Sep-86 04:01:44 EDT References: <1246@kitty.UUCP> Organization: The Klingon Empire Lines: 42 > In my humble :-) opinion, I cannot think of any editor more universally > useful than ``vi'' Am I WRONG in advising people to stay with ``vi'' > and not spend money for "word-processing software" in the BUSINESS APPLICATION > environment? > In my travels I have taken a cursory look at various word-processing > packages for UNIX machines, and do not find their operation or command set any > more intuitive than ``vi''. > For three or four secretaries (and to allow > for growth), I am inclined to recommend a 3B2 or NCR Tower XP as the most > COST-EFFECTIVE means of implementing a multi-user system. Comments, anyone? > > ==> UUCP: {allegra|decvax|rocksanne|rocksvax|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry What? Hey, I'm sitting on a tower right now, and I generally like the tower. But... I teach UNIX part time, and I can tell you that vi is NOT intuitive. There are no easy menus. There isn't a help button. There isn't even a help function at all. Compare vi to a Mac. You get into the thing, move around with your mouse, and plug in your text. You say you can do more on a UNIX system. True. But 99% of the time people don't need, or even want those extra capabilities. They just want to slap in their text and get a reasonably pretty document. I've seen campus departments which tried to get their secretaries to use the campus UNIX systems with nroff. Believe me, it was generally a disaster. Nroff is too complicated, too powerful, and has really terrible documentation. Vi suffers from the same problem. If you want multi-user, get a lot of Macs If you want to go with something cheap, a bunch of networked PC clones from Zenith or Leading Edge or Sperry or NCR will put you up for less, and have more expansion capability. Also, a Mac doesn't require any complicated system administration, file system checking, etc. While the tower is definitely the easiest UNIX system to manage that I've ever seen, a Mac is much easier. -- These views do not necessarily reflect those of the Imperial Propoganda Division, The Klingon Empire, or our Emperor.