Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!romwa From: romwa@utcs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.text,net.unix Subject: Re: Use of ``vi'' for business office word-processing Message-ID: <1986Sep15.090715.15872@utcs.uucp> Date: Mon, 15-Sep-86 09:07:15 EDT Article-I.D.: utcs.1986Sep15.090715.15872 Posted: Mon Sep 15 09:07:15 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 15-Sep-86 09:33:45 EDT References: <1246@kitty.UUCP> <709@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> <344@fai.UUCP> <575@ih1ap.UUCP>, <350@maynard.UUCP> Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services, general purpose UNIX Lines: 49 Keywords: ``vi'' word-processing non-programmers Xref: utcs net.text:1341 net.unix:9118 Checksum: 57585 >Oops, sorry to have strayed off the original "vi vs. WordStar etc." >discussion. Just wanted to set the record straight about VAX prices. >-- >Larry Campbell The Boston Software Works, Inc. >ARPA: campbell%maynard.uucp@harvard.ARPA 120 Fulton Street, Boston MA 02109 >UUCP: {alliant,wjh12}!maynard!campbell (617) 367-6846 Just what is the real issue here? If the issue is vi/*roff vs. WYSIWYG, then why not try one of the couple dozen or so word processors that are available for any number of UNIX/XENIX machines? Installing a UNIX box has nothing to do with the type of word processor one wants to run. I have use LYRIX on XENIX and found it to be more that satisfactory on a three user sytem, and have seen Crystal Writer which turns itself into nroff output if you want it to. Making the choice is admittedly not easy, and the answers seem not to be coming from the net. A market search is needed in each case, and the people who are going to use the system have to be interviewed and evaluated. As far as I am concerned, the issue is multiuser vs. single user. The software is not a problem on either side of the line. Remember that this office has money for a 3b2 or something else in that price range. That means that while the initial investment may be $3K per user (assuming 3) the addition of new users should be limited to the cost of a terminal and the line to hook up. We have boards on our Sperry IT w/XENIX running at 19,200bps which makes the terminals pretty quick so that should not be a problem (if such things are available at the 3b level). The decision to put in UNIX or DOS must be made with a view toward ability to support and maintain the system. UNIX will take quite a bit of baby sitting while with DOS or MAC's the people will become less dependent on a SYS. Administrator. As soon as you network all those DOS machines, however, you need a network administrator and someone to see to the daily maintenance so you are back at the UNIX solution through the rear entrance. Just one look at what is happening with the new hardware and DOS should make one think about just what kind of solution to go for. The hardware is going to be so powerful that the software one gets will be more complex and have a multiuser/tasking layer in it anyway. why not buy a mature product line UNIX? mark@utcs!romwa or romwa@utcs Mark T. Dornfeld Royal Ontario Museum Toronto, Ontario