Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!topaz!ll-xn!mit-amt!mit-eddie!mit-vax!oaf From: oaf@mit-vax.UUCP (Oded Feingold) Newsgroups: net.veg Subject: milk? Message-ID: <497@mit-vax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 13-Aug-86 14:32:23 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-vax.497 Posted: Wed Aug 13 14:32:23 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 16-Aug-86 05:43:04 EDT References: <495@water.UUCP> Reply-To: oaf@mit-vax.UUCP (Oded Feingold) Distribution: net Organization: /etc/notd (nonsense of the day) Lines: 23 >2) if moral concern for the welfare of animals is your REAL reason for >following a vegetarian diet, then you should seriously reconsider the lacto- >portion of your regime. Milk comes from cows who produce it in order to feed >their offspring. [Doug Dyment] ------------------------------ Today's milk cattle are bred (and fed, and maybe drugged) to pro- duce titanic quantities of milk, with minimal relationship to calving cycles. The moral argument against milk in the diet should not rest on whether you're depriving the calf. A more promising concern is the unhappy life the cow leads. (I can't really define "moral," so I won't sustain a question on my correctness in using the term.) We have created monsters, dependent on us to empty their udders, incapable of living on their own. The same goes for chickens, mass-producing eggs whether or not they're fertile. These animals are merely protein factories, until they stop lactating or laying. Then they're just protein, in the commercial view. I have no good idea how to treat such a question, and would wel- come suggestions. -- Oded Feingold MIT AI Lab 545 Tech Square Cambridge, Mass. 02139 {allegra|ihnp4!mit-eddie}!mit-vax!oaf OAF@OZ.AI.MIT.EDU 617-253-8598