Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!ll-xn!cit-vax!elroy!smeagol!usc-oberon!sdcrdcf!ism780c!marty From: marty@ism780c.UUCP (Marty Smith) Newsgroups: talk.bizarre Subject: Infinity Message-ID: <3357@ism780c.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Aug-86 18:34:17 EDT Article-I.D.: ism780c.3357 Posted: Tue Aug 26 18:34:17 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 29-Aug-86 19:21:07 EDT Reply-To: marty@ism780c.UUCP (Marty Smith) Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Santa Monica, CA Lines: 49 Every once in awhile, I try to think of the whole universe, of what was there before the Big Bang, and what's there outside of it all. I mean, don't tell me going forever outward will get me back to where I started but I'll know the place for the first time. I'm talking about real knowledge here, absolute knowledge. Physics is about the universe. I'm talking about what's outside the universe. You can't talk about what's outside the universe with tools designed to talk about what's inside. Philosophy won't do it either. We don't need philosophy, we need action. If I want philosophy I'll toss around a frisbee. I intend to play hardball with this problem. And don't any of you religionists climb aboard. I don't care what flavor you are, if [G,g]od didn't fix me so I can get outside the universe, there must be something there I want. So just stay out of the way. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. And don't throw Joachim's razor at me. I'm not shaving until I know the truth. I can carry a lot of stuff in my head, and I don't need some bozo telling me to keep life simple. That's the trouble around here; everybody wants life to be simple. I'm here to tell you, life is not simple. This relativity thing makes me feel like a prisoner in a very smelly place. These idiots in net.space talk about rockets like they can actually use them to go someplace. Give a break here. Interstellar travel is a lot of bunk. Who wants to go someplace if you can't come back? I want to go someplace and then come back, and then go again, and then come back again. And then these clowns in net.sf_lovers or whatever. They talk about the Starship Enterprise like some people talk to their dogs. There is no Starship Enterprise, folks; no warp drive; no transporter beam. There is a Spock, but he's a baby doctor, not a logician with pointy ears and a bad disposition. So you can forget about zipping around the heavans in 'other space' unless you all get up from your stupid terminals and start trying to get your little kiesters outside the universe! I want action! Now! I want to see asses and elbows! You're either with me or against me on this, okay? And I don't want some halfwit resident expert programmer telling me to move this to another news group. I've had it up to here with morons that think C is the best computer language. And I can see them coming a mile away. They walk different, they have no social life, and they think personal computers have practical uses. I don't need it. As far as I'm concerned, if I can't get outside the universe, there's no point in being inside it. Marty Smith