Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!yale!husc6!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!well!pan From: pan@well.UUCP (Philip Nicholls) Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: metamorphoses... Sagan-Greenhouse ==> Thoop-solar-collector Message-ID: <1753@well.UUCP> Date: Wed, 10-Sep-86 02:43:06 EDT Article-I.D.: well.1753 Posted: Wed Sep 10 02:43:06 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 12-Sep-86 02:30:27 EDT References: <615@imsvax.UUCP> Reply-To: pan@well.UUCP (Philip Nicholls) Organization: Whole Earth Lectronic Link, Sausalito CA Lines: 15 In reading Ted H, I have been curious as to why he seems to have it in so much for Carl Sagen. When Sagen deals with Velikovski in his books and articles, he makes a point, generally, of taking him seriously, even chastising his fellow astronomers for not doing so. In fact, Sagen organized a discussion at a meeting of the AAAS some years back on Velikoviski, inviting him (Velikovski) to participate. Why then does Ted dislike Carl? I think the answer lies in the fact that Sagen did take him seriously and in doing so did not martyr him. This robs Velikovski of his greatest appeal, his image of the man "ahead of his time." I admire Velikovski for his literary scholarship, his mastery of ancient languages. As a scientist, I still think he is all wet.