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From: scott@hou2g.UUCP (Ma-Ma-Ma-Max Ma-Ma-Max Headroom)
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Subject: Re: metamorphoses... Sagan-Greenhouse ==> Thoop-solar-collector
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Date: Wed, 10-Sep-86 09:16:16 EDT
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Ted Holden writes:

>>    Surely you don't mean "no solar collector based on the 'greenhouse
>>    effect' can have a thermal equilibrium temperature greater than the
>>    melting point of lead."  I don't find this implausible at all.  If

> Solar collectors, as I understand them, involve FOCUSING large amounts
> of energy on a small area either through lenses or parabolic reflectors.

Gee, Ted, has it occurred to you that maybe you DON'T understand them?

> You can always tell the types who are keen on reality.......  I mean, it
> SHOWS.  

Wow!  How more effectively can Ted indict himself?  Good job, Ted!

> I write articles to net.origins on occasion for the benefit of a small
> handfull of people out there who can and have learned something from
> them;  that obviously doesn't include Throop or three or four of my
> loudest detractors.

Au contraire!  I'm sure everyone here has learned plenty about the incredible
amounts of ignorance, obstinance, and evasiveness that a person can embody.
*I* sure have.  Keep it up, Ted, so we can laugh some more.

> I'm not even INTERESTED in debating you, Throop.  

Naturally.  Ted only responds (if at all) when he can find a nit to pick.
He can't debate his theory or the facts, because the former makes absolutely
no sense, and the latter he can't understand (which doesn't stop him from
posting selected, unsubstantiated data for "support").

> old story about the fat lady walking into a bar with a duck under her
> arm.  The barkeep says "that's a mighty fine looking pig you got there",
> the lady replies "that's not a pig, that's a duck, you dummy", and the
> barkeep says "I was TALKING TO the duck".

That's right.  Ted is talking to the ducks.  *Them* he might convince.

Pay attention to my signature line, Ted.  *YOU* might learn something.


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"The tyranny of what seems reasonable often impedes science."
		Scott J. Berry		ihnp4!hou2g!scott