Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!zen!cory.Berkeley.EDU!chapman From: chapman@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Brent Chapman) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers,talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: Heinlein's panegyric for the Bomb Message-ID: <166@zen.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sun, 14-Sep-86 02:52:38 EDT Article-I.D.: zen.166 Posted: Sun Sep 14 02:52:38 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Sep-86 02:11:48 EDT References: <1071@hoptoad.uucp> <776@mtung.UUCP> <977@whuts.UUCP> Sender: news@zen.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: chapman@cory.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Brent Chapman) Organization: UNIXversity of California at Berkeley Lines: 36 Xref: mnetor net.sf-lovers:8472 talk.politics.misc:122 In article <977@whuts.UUCP> orb@whuts.UUCP (SEVENER) writes: ... >But then another effect should have been well-known to Heinlein which >he never bothered to deal with in his paean to "survivalism". >Namely the certainty than any all-out nuclear war would lead to >massive firestorms, leaving those in shelters like "Farnham's Freehold" >to be either cooked alive like those in Dresden, or else suffocated by >the lack of oxygen consumed by such torrential flames. >It has been a long time since I read "Farnham's Freehold" but I also >don't recall much discussion of the pernicious effects of radioactivity- >in the region around Chernobyl, a minscule incident compared to the >effects of an all-out nuclear war, they have to strip off the top >inches of thousands of acres of topsoil because it is excessively >radioactive. If you strip off the top inches of fertile topsoil to >avoid radioactivity, the soil left will be practically useless for >growing crops. Nor do I recall Heinlein talking much at all about >radiation sickness, leukemia, cancer, etc. ... > tim sevener whuxn!orb I believe that Heinlein sidestepped this whole issue in one of the basic premises of the story. If I remember correctly, Farnham & Co. survived _because_ they were basicly at ground zero for a blast, which conveniently knocked them several hundred (thousand?) years into the future. Without this convenient little "trick", there would have been no story. Brent -- Brent Chapman chapman@cory.berkeley.edu or ucbvax!cory!chapman