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From: johnmill@mmintl.UUCP (John Miller)
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Subject: Re: Attorney General's Commission on Pornography
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Date: Mon, 15-Sep-86 13:21:49 EDT
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In article <978@whuts.UUCP> orb@whuts.UUCP writes:

>Also all ads for contraceptive products are banned from the air totally.

Really?  By whom?

>A local group of right-to-lifers recently appeared at a school board
>meeting here where I live in Morris County protesting any sex education
>whatsoever.

Are you trying to make the same kind of "A is associated with B, therefore
A causes B" argument the the Meese commission is so often (perhaps quite
rightly) accused of on the net?

It seems to me that except where sex education advocates abortion, the two
issues are separate.

>It becomes quite obvious in all of this that the concerns of Mr. Meese
>and some of the fundamentalists in the anti-abortion movement (not ALL!)
>have nothing whatsoever with stopping violence (did not President Reagan
>sign the recent bill gutting Gun Control?), preventing unwanted pregnancies,
>stopping the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, preventing abortions
>(in fact sex education preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place
>has been shown in a study in Baltimore and in scores of other countries to
>prevent abortions than all the bombings of abortion clinics), or
>any other avowed aim.  The ultimate concern is very simple and narrow-
>*preventing sex* period.

It becomes quite obvious that your viewpoint is just as narrow as that that
you impute to the Meese commission.

>Mr. Meese, Ronald Reagan, their pal Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson
>are narrowminded prudes who believe that *sex is a SIN* (it says so
>in the Bible, tho Solomon, Abraham and other Biblical prophets had many
>sexual encounters) and they must impose their view of morality on
>everyone else.
>It doesn't matter to them whether somebody else's sexuality affects them
>whatsoever but it is a *SIN* under their view of God and therefore
>that gives them the right to tell everyone else what to do.

It isn't so much what you say as how you say it.  Read over that little
bit of prose above and then read some of the gems from the infamous
McCarthy days.  The similarity in tone is frightening.

>That is why it is simply a waste of time to argue about Meese's Commission:
>its purpose has nothing to do with solving anything, and everything to
>do with government control of our private lives for fanatical religious
>purposes.
>                        tim sevener  whuxn!orb


As soon as anyone starts to tell me arguing something is a waste of time
they are really saying that their minds are closed.

Incidentally:

At this time I personally believe that it is anyone's right to view any
kind of flick their little hearts desire, and for anyone to produce or
act in any kind of production they wish, PROVIDED that no exploitation
or coercion is employed in that production.  I make NO distinction in
this regard as to whether the end result is porn or not.

It is possible that after reading the Meese report I may change my mind.

In the meantime I continue to support the Second Ammendment of the
constitution, which ends "  .. the right of the people to keep and bear
Arms, SHALL NOT BE ABRIDGED."

I suspect I might someday need my little arsenal, not against the well-
meaning but misguided souls on the right whom I feared not so many years
ago, but against the well-meaning but equally bigoted liberals of the
type who are currently posting so much to the net.

"Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins."
			-- generally attributed to Will Rogers

			-- johnmill