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From: lazarus@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Andrew J &)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Unemployment shifting
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Date: Mon, 15-Sep-86 16:38:07 EDT
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In article <1291@drutx.UUCP> dlo@drutx.UUCP (OlsonDL) writes:
>> = sevener
>>So when the United States suffered a 33% unemployment rate during the
>>Great Depression, you are going to tell me that the WPA projects, the
>>Civilian Conservation Corps, and other such projects *cost jobs*???

>Provided???  Are you saying that the Pres and Congress are the *source*
>of this wealth?   Where did they get it?  Did they generate it themselves?

May be -- they used deficit spending!
>
>Since government produces no wealth of its own, what wealth it has comes
>from the private sector via taxes.
This assumes what you wish to prove.
>
>Suppose it requires 1 unit of wealth to provide/maintain 1 job.  So, for
What is the logic behind this model for jobs creation and
maintenance?  (Other than the fact it 'proves' what you believe.)

>10 jobs it would require 10 units -- not 9, not 9.826, but 10.  
Unlikely even in your simplistic model.  Have you heard about
economies of scale?  (Or, conversely, the law of diminishing returns?)
This might explain why even inefficient govt. can generate more
jobs than it allegedly takes away.
[...]
>Unemployment was shifted from one person to another.
> 
Somehow unemployment was reduced with public works, not only in the US
but Germany, Italy, etc.  Did they do it with mirrors?

andy