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From: public@wheaton (Joe Public)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,net.kids
Subject: Re: Taxing Schools Etc. (paranoid educational establishment)
Message-ID: <185@wheaton>
Date: Tue, 16-Sep-86 21:41:28 EDT
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Posted: Tue Sep 16 21:41:28 1986
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Reply-To: public@wheaton.UUCP (Calvin Richter)
Organization: Wheaton College, Wheaton IL.
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In article <3526@ism780c.UUCP> geoff@ism780c.UUCP (Geoff Kimbrough) writes:
>In article <2655@burdvax.UUCP> devonst@burdvax.UUCP (Tom Albrecht) writes:
>>                                       In New Jersey, Governor Kean has
>>said that a degree from a teacher's college is no longer needed to teach in
>>the state.  All one needs to show is a proficiency in the subject area and
>>an ability to communicate with young people and you can teach in NJ
>>schools.  Someone is finally moving to break the death grip that the
>>educational establishment has on the public schools.
>	It sounds to me like Gov Kean is just lowering standards to
>	attract more teachers, instead of raising salaries or improving
>	working conditions.
>>Tom Albrecht
>	       Geoffrey Kimbrough -- Director of Dangerous Activities

Now, let's not be so hasty here.  Sounds very like a private school with
which I had connection.  Only one of the teachers there that I know of had a
degree in education, but all were proficient in their subjects (the English
teacher had a Master's degree in English, for example), all put in many long
hours staying after school to help students, coming in early to help
students, all worked for peanuts (no, peanuts would've been an improvement
over what they were paid), but all were dedicated to the students.  The
result was that, on the average, the students were a year and a half to two
years ahead of their age group in the public schools, who were taught by
certified teachers.  So, even with low salaries, poor working conditions,
and no state certifications this kind of system can work.  

                                              --calvin richter--