Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!caip!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!houxm!mtuxo!mtune!mtund!adam From: adam@mtund.UUCP (Adam V. Reed) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,net.legal Subject: Evidence and Pornography Legislation Message-ID: <782@mtund.UUCP> Date: Wed, 17-Sep-86 18:45:11 EDT Article-I.D.: mtund.782 Posted: Wed Sep 17 18:45:11 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Sep-86 01:38:05 EDT References: <777@mtund.UUCP> <1529@mtx5a.UUCP> <780@mtund.UUCP> <1547@mtx5a.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T ISL Middletown NJ USA Lines: 44 Xref: mnetor talk.politics.misc:172 net.legal:3605 Mark Terribile: > If you believe that the evidence is not yet adequate to base policy on, and > you fail to search for more evidence when the evidence that is there makes > a strong suggestion, then you are showing your bias. I think you are barking up the wrong tree. One of my areas of expertise is the methodology of psychological research; and so I do participate in the search, as an inventor of new methods, a peer review referee for scientific periodicals and funding agencies, and as a consulting editor of *Behavior Research Methods*. It is true that I do not actively look for evidence that "pornography" is harmful, but that is because I prefer to conduct research in areas where there is at least a reasonable expectation of obtaining meaningful results. On the basis of what I have seen so far, research into the allegedly harmful effects of erotica is much like "parapsychology": all the "positive evidence" comes from inadequately controlled or fallaciously analyzed experiments; and once adequate controls are performed and valid analyses are done all the alleged evidence vanishes into thin air. > .... at the very least, the studies show a reason for concern and > for more extensive study. They certainly do not indicate that we should > abandon two centuries of legislative and judicial tradition .... Now we get into questions about the ethical foundations of the law. Legal punishment means depriving a person, at least temporarily, of the rights to liberty and the pursuit of happiness. One of the ethical foundations of western society is the presumption that no one ought to be deprived of these rights without a demonstration, beyond a reasonable doubt, of having caused harm to another person. Even clear evidence of having transgressed a legal prohibition would fail to meet this criterion, if legal prohibitions are instituted without requiring proof - beyond a reasonable doubt - that the activity being prohibited is in fact harmful. Human sacrifice, judicial torture, slavery, and other traditions many times more ancient than the prohibition against pornography, were abandoned when found to conflict with the ethical foundations of our society. As long as there is no evidence which would prove beyond a reasonable doubt that pornography is harmful, a legal prohibition against pornography remains in conflict with those foundations. It is this conflict which lies at the base of attempts to manufacture the requisite "evidence" through disregard for fundamental requirements of methodological integrity. Adam Reed (ihnp4!mtund!adam)