Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!gatech!akgua!lcuxlm!whuxl!whuts!orb From: orb@whuts.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,net.legal,net.singles Subject: Re: Re: Commission on Pornography -- reply to GWSmith Message-ID: <987@whuts.UUCP> Date: Fri, 12-Sep-86 09:35:02 EDT Article-I.D.: whuts.987 Posted: Fri Sep 12 09:35:02 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Sep-86 21:01:17 EDT References: <1487@mtx5a.UUCP> <15487@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <1506@mtx5a.UUCP> <15596@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <1522@mtx5a.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 37 Xref: mnetor talk.politics.misc:72 net.legal:3538 net.singles:10277 > > > The alternative is Plato's Republic, where the Guardians of the public > > welfare ban certain kinds of music, certain kinds of books, and so forth. > > The dividing line, which you are arguing (I think) cannot be drawn, is the > point at which a photographic or cinematic depiction is designed for *nothing* > except sexual arousal. Triggering sexual arousal is not communication in any > sense related to the purposes of the Constitution. Or at least it appears that > the Supreme Court has held this to be the case. > > mat, or to mtx5a!mtx5b!mat) AH! Now we have gotten to the *crux* of the matter: sexual arousal Nothing here about rape, nothing here about violence, nothing here about unwanted pregnancies, sexually transmitted diseases, nope just plain sexual arousal. Let's ban bikinis!! (they arouse *me*!) Let's ban Rubens, Rembrandt, the Venus de Milo!! Let's ban *anything* which may lead people to that awful, disgusting *sinful* pleasure of *SEXUAL AROUSAL*!! After all if God had wanted us to be sexually aroused...... Amidst all the noise about rape, violence, etc, you have finally stated the true desire of the Meese Commission and the right-wing fascists trying to take away our rights to private pleasures. Their desire to repress sexual arousal. Which is exactly what I have argued is the point of the Meese Commission all along. tim sevener whuxn!orb