Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!yale!husc6!think!mit-eddie!mit-trillian!speter From: speter@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU (Peter Osgood) Newsgroups: net.religion,talk.religion Subject: Re: Banning books, religion etc... Message-ID: <1079@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU> Date: Tue, 2-Sep-86 10:22:19 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-tril.1079 Posted: Tue Sep 2 10:22:19 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 9-Sep-86 04:43:21 EDT References: <1637@ames.UUCP> <180@BMS-AT.UUCP> Reply-To: speter@trillian.UUCP (Peter Osgood) Distribution: net Organization: MIT Project Athena Lines: 27 Xref: linus net.religion:10674 talk.religion:38 >In article <180@BMS-AT.UUCP> stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) writes: >>In article <1637@ames.UUCP>, barry@ames.UUCP (Kenn Barry) writes: > >A christian does (should?) not accept Humanism because it tries to >improve the human race without God. Who says so? Are they necessarily mutually exclusive or is it just that you are totally prejudiced against the idea that a real Christian could be a humanist as well?? >An existentialist does (should?) not accept Humanism because he knows >that any supposed 'improvement' is illusory. Okay, before we go any further, a humanist according to Webster's New World dictionary is "a student of human nature and human affairs 2. a follower of Humanism." Humanism: "2. . . . specificly a modern, non-theistic, rationalist movement that holds man is capable of self-fulfillment." Even by definition, a humanist does not necessarily leave God out. It is simply a statement of belief. But this does not explain why you believe a trancendentalist would reject humanism. I do not necessarily ascribe to Humanism, but I would like you to explain yourself further. Simply rejecting an idea without good reason is bad. ---peter osgood---