Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!husc6!caip!ucla-cs!cc From: cc@locus.ucla.edu (Oleg "Kill the bastards" Kiselev) Newsgroups: net.religion,talk.religion Subject: Re: Banning books, religion etc... Message-ID: <1362@curly.ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Mon, 8-Sep-86 01:17:43 EDT Article-I.D.: curly.1362 Posted: Mon Sep 8 01:17:43 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 9-Sep-86 05:56:09 EDT References: <1637@ames.UUCP> <180@BMS-AT.UUCP> <1641@ames.UUCP> <191@BMS-AT.UUCP> Reply-To: oac6.oleg@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU (Oleg "Kill the bastards" Kiselev) Distribution: net Organization: Right down the hall, on your left (UCLA Computer Club) Lines: 47 Xref: linus net.religion:10769 talk.religion:80 In article <191@BMS-AT.UUCP> stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) writes: >Now let me blow your minds further by extending the >discussion to truth in general. If I wanted to be rude, I'd say "you exhibit all signs of having undergone the process yourself!", BUT... I want to be nice today. Or, I could say "what blows the lesser minds is but a caress to some!", BUT... that would be nasty and I DO want to be nice today... I guess I'll just let this pass. And be nice for the duration of this whole article. >I belong to an ancient sect which believes, among other things, in absolute >truth. And I belong to a MORE ancient sect that believes, among other things, that the idea of absolute truth is absolutely absurd. >a In order to be meaningful (to us), truth must be available > to us in some way. Verifyability never enters the play, I see. What is the available truth about Hell, or Paradise? >c Information is not of uniform value. The 1979 telephone book > for Northern Virginia is probably 99.99% accurate (for 1979). > Perhaps I should memorize it to improve my personal grasp > on truth. :-) Hmmm.... Sounds like an indictment of the Bible to me... After all, 1979 phone book will be over 50% accurate in 1986 in most areas. Not so after 1700-1800 years. >Closed Minds: > I have already read countless books by humanists and new-agers. > I don't need one more movie to round out my knowlege of their thinking. Ever tried reading them with an open mind? Ever tried to understand them? A closed mind is not a sign of great virtue, despite your misconceptions. > "Man is capable of self-fulfillment [without God]." > -- this statement is the antithesis of Biblical christianity. The above quote needs no criticism, no flames, no questions. Those who disagree with such mentality will understand. I find it simply evil. --- "Untie a knot, tie a new knot..." Oleg Kiselev, HASA