Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!brahms!m128abo From: m128abo@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.religion,talk.religion,net.origins Subject: Re: The Cosmological Argument Message-ID: <15276@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Fri, 15-Aug-86 03:50:24 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.15276 Posted: Fri Aug 15 03:50:24 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Aug-86 06:23:59 EDT References: <15222@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <988@hoptoad.uucp> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: m128abo@brahms.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 24 Xref: linus net.religion:10426 talk.religion:8 net.origins:3365 > Tim Maroney > Easy to shoot down. There is no reason to assume that anything > exists. All events may simply be mathematical potentials, none more > real than any other. Our experiences are simply some of the > potentials. Therefore, since there is no objective reason to assume > that anything exists, the first premise of the argument is flawed or > at least unneccessary, and the argument becomes suspect. In that case, existence as an all-or-none affair is replaced by existence as a superposition of potentia. Doesn't weakening "strict objective existence" to "intersubjectivity" assert that existability, if not existence, exists? >(No, this is not a joke; yes, I am prepared to doubt that anything exists.) But are you prepared to doubt slack? -michael The fact that operant behavior seems "directed toward the future" is misleading. -BF Skinner