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From: cc100jr@gitpyr.UUCP (Joel Rives)
Newsgroups: net.games.frp,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Wyldeland theory of magic (& witchcraft)
Message-ID: <2248@gitpyr.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 12-Sep-86 12:26:12 EDT
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Posted: Fri Sep 12 12:26:12 1986
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References: <1059@leadsv.UUCP> <856@curly.ucla-cs.ARPA> <1082@leadsv.UUCP> <142@zen.BERKELEY.EDU> <1021@ucbcad.BERKELEY.EDU>
Reply-To: cc100jr@gitpyr.UUCP (Joel Rives)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia
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Keywords: animist magic
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In article <1021@ucbcad.BERKELEY.EDU> faustus@ucbcad.BERKELEY.EDU (Wayne A. Christopher) writes:
>In article <142@zen.BERKELEY.EDU>, iverson@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Iverson) writes:
>> 	Well, maybe that is so direct as to make anyone answering yes seem
>> a fool.  Perhaps I should rephrase.  Should such a person exist that claims
>> to be a witch, or practise black magic, or worship Satan - would you think
>> that such a person was crazy, bad, or downright evil?
>
>Well, the poster you are responding to said that he had become an animist -
>although I don't quite see the point, animism as a religon is a far cry
>from Satanism.  If somebody calls themself a witch, that's fine with me,
>but if they say they worship Satan, which is quite a different thing, I
>start to worry...  Not that they're going to put a hex on me, but that
>such a person would have to be pretty unstable to begin with... Assuming
>of course that he or she means the standard Christian Satan, not Pan whom
>Satan is derived from...
>

For those of you who find this discussion interesting, I recommend reading
talk.religion and/or net.religion. A similar discussion has been going on 
there for some time. In fact, Lucifer has been - rather intelligently -
analogized with Promethius the Titan. The analogy began with the statement 
that both were considered to have brought knowledge and enlightenment from
the realm of the gods to mankind. In Lucifer's case it was through the 
Tree of Knowledge - the biblical story of the Eve and the Serpent. In 
Promethius's case, the Greek legends call him the fire bringer. He is reported
as having not only brought fire to man but knowledge of various arts and 
crafts. Lucifer was cast into Hell by The Judeo-Christian god for his 
rebelious nature. Promethius was chained to a mountain where a vulture 
perpetually ate his liver - which continuously regenerated (Remember that
one GM's when you're looking for a particularly nasty way to torture info
out of a PC wearing a ring of regeneration :-). In Prometheus' case, he
was lucky enough to have Heracles wander by and free him. Lucifer, it 
seems is still roasting away in the pits of Hell. Now that would make for
an interesting adventure for some great Hero - wouldn't it? Heh heh!

As for witchcraft (or wicca as it's followers prefer), it is one of the oldest
known forms of worship and - contrary to popular belief - does not involve
living sacrifices. I agree with the previous poster, the records show that
wicca is far more tollerant of christianity than christianity has been of 
wicca (or any other religion for that matter)



-- 
Joel Rives

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