Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!yale!husc6!ut-sally!seismo!gatech!gitpyr!cc100jr From: cc100jr@gitpyr.UUCP (Joel Rives) Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: Re: one more time... (not again!) Message-ID: <2235@gitpyr.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Sep-86 19:08:04 EDT Article-I.D.: gitpyr.2235 Posted: Tue Sep 9 19:08:04 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Sep-86 06:52:33 EDT References: <1500@mtx5a.UUCP> <1133@cybvax0.UUCP> <3342@umcp-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: cc100jr@gitpyr.UUCP (Joel Rives) Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia Lines: 36 In article <3342@umcp-cs.UUCP> mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) writes: >M. Terribile writes: >>> ... All of Christianity rests on a >>> single point: the Resurrection. If Jesus did not rise from the dead after >>> a brutal crucifixion, there is no point whatsoever in Christianity.... > >And Mike Huybensz replies: >>Very seldom will I speak in favor of Christianity, but the above is downright >>stupid. While the resurrection might be a key point of christian theology, >>it has nothing to do with Christian morality (some of which even I value.) > >Well, that simply isn't true. In the Letter of James it says right out that >the works are the evidence of faith. The faith is the source for the >morality. If you throw away the fiath and just keep the morality you have >something entirely different. > I fail to see that Charley has managed to disprove anything of Mike's statement. The logic here is quite disjointed. As I read it, he has made the following assertions: 1. The works are a result of faith. 2. The morality is a result of faith. 3. With out faith, the morality is not the same (as what?). Assuming that "the works" includes "the resurrection", Charley's assertions say nothing about the connection between "the resurrection" and "the morality". -- Joel Rives USENET: gatech!gitpyr!cc100jr BITNET: gatech!gitvm1!cc100jr "Remember, no matter where you go, there you are!" << Buckaroo Banzai >>