Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!styx!twg-ap!amdahl!pyramid!decwrl!ucbvax!sdcsvax!sdcc6!sdcc3!za56 From: za56@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU (Brian McNeill) Newsgroups: net.games.frp,talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: Wyldeland theory of magic (& witchcraft) Message-ID: <3579@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU> Date: Sat, 13-Sep-86 14:44:56 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcc3.3579 Posted: Sat Sep 13 14:44:56 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 15-Sep-86 02:34:23 EDT References: <1059@leadsv.UUCP> <856@curly.ucla-cs.ARPA> <1082@leadsv.UUCP> <392@ubc-cs.UUCP> <142@zen.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: za56@sdcc3.UUCP (Brian McNeill) Followup-To: talk.religion.misc Distribution: na Organization: U.C. San Diego, Academic Computer Center Lines: 52 Keywords: animist magic Summary: Witches! Xref: mnetor net.games.frp:2252 talk.religion.misc:33 In article <142@zen.BERKELEY.EDU> iverson@cory.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Tim Iverson) writes: > > > Well, maybe that is so direct as to make anyone answering yes seem >a fool. Perhaps I should rephrase. Should such a person exist that claims >to be a witch, or practise black magic, or worship Satan - would you think >that such a person was crazy, bad, or downright evil? > Witches (Wicca) are an ancient sect of "pagans" (so called by Xians) that worshipped Nature (sorta like Druids...somebody correct me if Im wrong!)...in the middle ages, Witches were persecuted because they followed a different religion...thusly, the Xians started spreading rumors that Witches worshipped Lucifer Malfkrieg, etc...and even changed the Bible against them (the passage in the King James Bible reading "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" read in the original Hebrew, "Thou shalt not suffer a POISONER to live AMONG YOU"! Major change here, and one that cost hundreds of thousands of innocent women to burn/hang/be pressed to death!) > To start the ball rolling, I would think that such a person is no more >crazy than most Christians and probably alot less evil - they are probably not >going to denounce you as witch and burn you at the stake, something Christians >have a long history of doing. For those of you who wish to counter by saying >that Christians have not burnt anyone recently, let me point out that although >the Rev. Fallwell (sp?) and the news media never use fire, they do indeed >roast people. :-) > Bingo...and a lot less bloodthirsty, I would say, also...after all, the Wicca did not start an Inquisition, several religious wars, a few hundred thousand burnings, etc (in all, I would say that Xianity has been one of the worst scourges in all of history, outkilling the Black Plague...and its something for which there appears to be no cure!) And whose to say that if Falwell gets his way there won't be more witch burnings around (not to mention infringement upon all of my rights...like my right to read anything I damned well please, even if it is anti-Xian, or whatever...) > >- Tim Iverson > iverson@cory.Berkeley.EDU > ...!ucbvax!cory!iverson /-----------------------------------------------------------\ | Brian McNeill ARPA : za56@sdcc3.ucsd.edu | | HASA "A" Division UUCP : ...!sdcsvax!sdcc6!sdcc3!za56 | |-----------------------------------------------------------| | Disclaimer: I hereby disclaim all knowledge of opinions, | | expressed or implied, including this disclaimer. | | Flames ---> /dev/null | \-----------------------------------------------------------/