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From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz)
Newsgroups: talk.origins,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Creation, Evolution, and Flood
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Date: Mon, 15-Sep-86 15:57:13 EDT
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In article <203@BMS-AT.UUCP> stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) writes:
> Actually, I don't assume evolution is not part of God's plan.  I don't
> pretend to have been around when God created the world.  I am convinced
> that it happened just the way the Bible describes it.  I get ticked
> off at both creationists and evolutionists because of the irrational
> basis of both theories.  

Perhaps I can show you a reason to get ticked off at yourself for the
irrationality of your own note.

> Evolutionist:	The only alternative to evolution is special creation.
> 	Since God doesn't exist, this is clearly impossible.  Therefore
> 	evolution is true.  (Despite the evidence.)

Patent misrepresentation.  There are innumerable other alternatives, such
as spontaneous generation, other mythological scenarios, etc.  Nor do
scientists make the error of saying "because A isn't so, B is so."
We simply say that evolution is the best supported hypothesis.
(If you want to debate the evidence, go ahead.)

> Creationist:	Evolution was conceived by heathen, therefore it could
> 	not possibly be Biblical (i.e. true).  (No science required.)
> 
> The waters are further muddied by the 'apparent age' problem which
> makes any scientific consideration of creation impossible.  (Science
> is only concerned with what we can observe.)
> 
> My conclusion: both creationism and evolution are totally unscientific
> and should not be taught in science classes.  (I mean general evolution.
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"... when people begin to philosophize they seem to think it necessary to make
themselves artificially stupid."  Bertrand Russell in "Theory of Knowledge".
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