Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!decwrl!lymph.dec.com!arndt From: arndt@lymph.dec.com Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc,net.religion.christian Subject: More Figs! Message-ID: <5385@decwrl.DEC.COM> Date: Tue, 16-Sep-86 14:00:55 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.5385 Posted: Tue Sep 16 14:00:55 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 19-Sep-86 07:29:06 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.DEC.COM Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 46 Xref: linus talk.religion.misc:93 net.religion.christian:4654 It has also occured to me since I posted the piece on Jesus cursing the fig tree that my explanation of the event might shed light - for me at least, perhaps more mature souls out there already thought of it - on the whole concept of why man should not 'curse'. Explaining things, especially of a moral nature, to children in a manner that does not fall back on 'because I say so!' means reducing moral principles to a very 'simple' form. To the nub as it were. In the recent past, aside from saying 'but daddy is serving as a bad example' I have always tried to justify NOT cursing (God damm it!) because it involved the frivolous use of the name of God. And it is rude, unmannerly and disrespectful of God, not to mention it betrays a lack of control and ability to deal with things when they 'fall apart' in ones hands so to speak. A character flaw. (Character - a quaint notion held by previous generatons and some backward yahoos found every sunday morning in front of the telly in the total mind control of TV 'evangelists' who trick them out of their pension money in order to live high on the public hog and force everyone to believe THEIR moral pronouncments are the ONLY ones when we all know that what each person believes is right for him is what he ought to do ((whee, this is fun! Am I getting it right true believers?)) and who also hold to this belief, sustained only by 'faith' snicker snicker unlike OUR knowledge of SCIENCE which does not envolve, ugh, 'faith' at all.) Sorry for the above. It's a sort of mental masterbation exercise I find myself having to resist more and more lately. I guess it comes from reading the obsene tripe on the nets. Perhaps we could get the Mease Commission to look into the HASA postings to net.religion and net.religion.christian. I could be a witness against them and show the effect, as above, exposure to HASA cant has had on my otherwise terrific life. Of course I haven't gone completely to the bottem of the 'slippery slope' since I still used 'he' and 'him' in the generic sense and not he/she or him/her. At least I can always find someone worse off than myself to self-rightously point to! But back to figs. And here's the point of my posting (yea, it got one). What Jesus did with the fig tree was exactly to say, 'God damm it!' Not only did something happen - it was not an EMPTY gesture of frustration and an expression of desire to change something 'not right', but it resulted in ACTION, unlike our 'cursings'. WE SHOULD NOT 'CURSE' THE WORLD BECAUSE IT PRESUMES THE PEROGITIVES AND POWER OF GOD! And so is a form of blasphemy! I'll try it on my kids tonight. Any comments? Keep chargin' Ken Arndt