Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: misc.consumers Subject: Re: automatic sales calls Message-ID: <7236@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-Oct-86 13:53:51 EDT Article-I.D.: utzoo.7236 Posted: Thu Oct 16 13:53:51 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 16-Oct-86 13:53:51 EDT References: <5939@decwrl.DEC.COM> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 23 > I believe with some electronic hacking, (and a capacitor) one can monitor > the signal on the phone line while the line is ringing, so there is no need > to fake the ring signal. It depends on whether the phone company sends the > signal from the caller's phone to the callee's phone while it is ringing. > (which I believe it does, but I've never tried it) If so, such a device is > easy. Monitoring the signal on the line during ringing is no big trick. However, only the older phone exchanges connect the two ends during ringing. Newer ones do not, because there is an obvious possibility of sending data or even voice without ever picking up the phone. Anything that permits unrecorded calls is anathema to the phone company. So whether or not this would work is a function of what sort of equipment the phone company has on the other end, which is subject to change without notice. The simplest approach, actually, would be to include a buzzer or bell or whatever in the monitoring box. Ringing the phone bell itself is not trivial, you need fairly high voltages and the right frequency (the bell ringer is resonant at the ringing frequency). Adding your own ringer may be inelegant, but it's easier. -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}!utzoo!henry