Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!mordor!sri-spam!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!lasso.UUCP!ralph From: ralph@lasso.UUCP (Ralph P. Sobek) Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: Re: Xerox 11xx vs. Symbolics 36xx vs. ... Message-ID: <8609231101.AA19031@inria.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Sep-86 01:29:19 EDT Article-I.D.: inria.8609231101.AA19031 Posted: Thu Sep 25 01:29:19 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Sep-86 05:09:06 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 23 Approved: ailist@sri-stripe.arpa I enjoyed all the discussion on the pluses and minuses of these and other lisp machines. I, myself, am an Interlisp user. Those who know a particular system well will prefer it over another. All these lisp systems are quite complex and require a long time, a year or so, before one achieves proficiency. And as any language, human or otherwise, one's perception of one's environment depends upon the tools/semantics that the language provides. I have always found Interlisp much more homogeneous than Zetalisp. The packages are structured so as to interface easily. I find the written documentation also much more structured, and smaller, than the number of volumes that come with a Symbolics. Maybe, Symbolics users only use the online documentation and thus avoid the pain of trying to find something in the written documentation. The last time I tried to find something in the Symbolics manuals -- I gave up, frustrated! :-) Interesting will be the future generation of lisp machines, after Common Lisp. Ralph P. Sobek UUCP: mcvax!inria!lasso!ralph@SEISMO.CSS.GOV ARPA: sobek@ucbernie.Berkeley.EDU (automatic forwarding) BITNET: SOBEK@FRMOP11