Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!pyramid!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (Dave Taylor) Newsgroups: mod.comp-soc Subject: Moderation...what is it? Message-ID: <616@hplabsc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Sep-86 19:14:41 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsc.616 Posted: Wed Sep 3 19:14:41 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Sep-86 03:32:16 EDT Reply-To: hplabs!taylor (Dave Taylor) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Lines: 81 Approved: taylor@hplabs Since the message saying that I was disinclined to continue the discussion on the ethics of work (etc) I've received some interesting mail from people! The main thought that keeps running through my head, however, is that no-one seems to agree on what moderation is... This is a more general problem with using computers as a communications medium, however - who, if anyone, decides what should and shouldn't be sent about, why, and how? I'd like to start a discussion on this topic in this group. A copy of this message has been sent out to the moderators of all the Usenet groups that are moderated. I see four basic ways that a group can be moderated; 1. The moderator can be a 'funnel' for information, neither checking the postings for quality nor for accuracy of presentation (e.g. spelling) or information. 2. The moderator can be a 'copy editor', not saying yes or no on what to post, but fixing the presentation to a consistent format and correcting the typographic/spelling errors in the texts received. 3. The moderator can be a 'newspaper editor', where certain things can be refused, but the most important issue is SPEED of reporting. 4. The moderator can be a 'magazine editor' where not only is the presentation monitored, but the topics themselves. We can point to different groups that moderate in different ways - examples are "OtherRealms", moderated by Chuq Von Rospach, which is essentially an electronic magazine, "mod.sources", moderated by Rich Salz, who is pretty much a 'newspaper editor' - he occasionally refuses postings, but is more interested in getting good stuff out in a timely manner. At the other end of the spectrum are groups like the "philosophy of science" mailing list on the ARPANET, which is really the 'funnel' of what little information flows through it. I view my role with the Computers and Society Digest (and newsgroup) as that of a magazine editor. This means that, as with real magazines, the reader chooses to subscribe because 1. the topic is of interest and 2. the direction that the magazine moves in is consistently interesting enough to at least *read* the stuff. This second part implies that the editorial direction and policy of the magazine is amenable to the readers. In some cases magazines have changed entirely, and changed readership as a consequence, due to a change in editorial staff. An example that comes to mind is the magazine "Unix/World", which has completely changed it's direction as a reporter of the Unix community... * Given this, then, how do we arrive at a moderator that is appropriate for the particular group? Currently, I think the computer systems might just have the ideal - the people who moderate groups do it because they *enjoy* it and are interested in the subject. Contrast this to the goings-on of magazines and news- papers where oftentimes it's due to 'management ability' or some sort of 'dealing' that lands an editorial position (again, "Unix/World" comes to mind, but that's a longer story!)... There are some problems in that the moderators don't have official sanction to 'edit' a newsgroup, so they tend to do it on the side in their spare time. But again, it shows their dedication to the area of discussion. * How does the moderator decide how much to moderate? This is perhaps the crux of the question. As we've seen, there are various groups that are moderated at different levels. This question, perhaps, is the one most in need of clarification by discussion... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I'll end my comments here for now, hoping for an interesting discussion. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Dave Taylor