Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!topaz!nike!ucbcad!UCBVAX.BERKELEY.EDU!mcgeer%sirius.berkeley.edu From: mcgeer%sirius.berkeley.edu@UCBVAX.BERKELEY.EDU Newsgroups: mod.politics Subject: Re: Poli-Sci Digest V6 #78 Message-ID: <12240609388.25.MCGREW@RED.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Sun, 21-Sep-86 01:15:36 EDT Article-I.D.: RED.12240609388.25.MCGREW Posted: Sun Sep 21 01:15:36 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Sep-86 18:25:48 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: mcgeer%sirius.berkeley.edu@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 31 Approved: poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu >>If government pays for something: >> >>1) The price skyrockets. >> Government really has no control. Doctors say 'it costs this >> much' what are they going to do? > >This is an unjustified and unsupported defeatist attitude. Here in >the United States our medical costs are higher than in England with >socialized medicine. Why should government have no control? >Government can set maximum prices for common procedures the same way >that Health Insurance carriers here in the United States do now. >Don't even bother to reply that there will be much waste and fraud >because that same waste and fraud exists in the United States today >under our present system. (1) Health care costs in England are lower because the standard of care in England is far lower. Transplants, for example, are not done in England. Has it ever occured to any of our Kennedyite correspondents that the only major new therapies we've seen in the last 15 years have been pioneered in the US? Guess why. Governments won't pay for experimental therapies. (2) Waste and fraud? Well, Canada's medicare system is by all accounts far more effective than Britain's NHS. But in Saskatchewan, some years back, the government announced that it was considering the establishment of a board to review elective surgery. Hysterectomies immediately fell by 2/3. -- Rick -------