Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!SIMTEL20.ARPA!MRC From: MRC@SIMTEL20.ARPA (Mark Crispin) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Formatting Query Message-ID: <12237805685.21.MRC@SIMTEL20.ARPA> Date: Wed, 10-Sep-86 08:34:24 EDT Article-I.D.: SIMTEL20.12237805685.21.MRC Posted: Wed Sep 10 08:34:24 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Sep-86 08:46:34 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 24 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Vint - So far as I know Multics is the only operating system in common use on the Internet which does not use tab stops at every 8th character. My experience suggests that it is basically hopeless in a true heterogenous environment to use tab stops at any other position due to the large number of terminals which do not offer settable tab stops. I admit that "8 tabs" are hopelessly hacker oriented and probably aren't santioned by any standard, but c'est la vie. Many of the Internet protocols are hopelessly hacker oriented. I'm sure ISO will "improve" this situation; I have no way of telling if ISO will do anything to improve it though. If you read your mail at A.ISI.EDU (as opposed to having some agent pick it up and pass it on to your real mailbox), you should know that A.ISI.EDU is a TOPS-20 system and TOPS-20 uses 8 tabs exclusively. Tenex had programmable tabs, but this functionality was deleted in TOPS-20. Therefore, it is correct that any terminal connected to a TOPS-20 system should use 8 tabs. I think the same is true for Unix and VAX/VMS. If not I'm sure I'll receive 1000 messages telling me what an idiot I am... -- Mark -- -------