Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ucbvax!SIMTEL20.ARPA!MRC From: MRC@SIMTEL20.ARPA (Mark Crispin) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: SMTP, 2600, and the security of mail Message-ID: <12242745855.7.MRC@SIMTEL20.ARPA> Date: Mon, 29-Sep-86 04:51:33 EDT Article-I.D.: SIMTEL20.12242745855.7.MRC Posted: Mon Sep 29 04:51:33 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Sep-86 20:25:28 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 15 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Oh wow, big deal, so the little phone phreaks has discovered how to talk to SMTP servers? I mean, am I supposed to be impressed with how bright they are or something? The Internet protocols are insecure by nature. A reasonably suspicious host should always record the host name or IP address of the how which actually connected to the SMTP server (the real host, not what was claimed in a HELO). Some hosts prevent random user programs from making TCP connections to the SMTP port (I think Multics does), but basically beyond knowing what host composed the message the end user should be reasonably suspicious about any mail s/he receives. After all, even IP addresses can be faked, although I suspect inpersonating the IP address of MIT-MULTICS is beyond the technical expertise of your average phone phreak (it requires actually KNOWING something). -------