Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!caip!cbmvax!welland From: welland@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Bob Welland) Newsgroups: net.micro.68k,net.arch Subject: Re: 68000 Memory Managment (Bechtolsheim patent) Message-ID: <772@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Sep-86 18:01:24 EDT Article-I.D.: cbmvax.772 Posted: Tue Sep 23 18:01:24 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 24-Sep-86 22:09:51 EDT References: <508@elmgate.UUCP> <64@mit-prep.ARPA> <15665@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <539@cubsvax.UUCP> <610@nike.UUCP> Reply-To: welland@cbmvax.UUCP (Bob Welland) Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 18 Xref: mnetor net.micro.68k:1252 net.arch:3120 The Zilog Z8000 MMU (Z8010) does not use the lower 8 address bits in its translation process. Most of the Zilog documents show the low order address bits going around the MMU and into "Memory Control". It seems obvious to me that any self respecting hardware designer would assert RAS as soon as possible in there "Memory Controller" (There is no horrible maximum RAS to CAS time). As I understand it, this is the part of the Sun patent that gets everyone upset. Is there someone out there with a Zilog application note that shows DRAMs explicitly ? I only have 1983 manuals but I know the Z8000 is from around 1978 ... Robert Welland Toy Engineer (I am told) Whatever I should disclaim I do here and now with the disclaim - r.