Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!jlg From: jlg@lanl.ARPA (Jim Giles) Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: Very large memories Message-ID: <7966@lanl.ARPA> Date: Thu, 25-Sep-86 15:42:45 EDT Article-I.D.: lanl.7966 Posted: Thu Sep 25 15:42:45 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Sep-86 01:05:43 EDT References: <1164@ncr-sd.UUCP> <2383@peora.UUCP> <683@ur-tut.UUCP> <2449@peora.UUCP> Reply-To: jlg@a.UUCP (Jim Giles) Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 25 In article <2449@peora.UUCP> joel@peora.UUCP writes: > I don't agree that applications are growing faster than > memory is getting cheaper. I might agree that the applications > are growing faster than the amount of memory usually installed > in most computers. > > Back in 78 it cost me $200 dollars to add 16KB to my Apple II. > Last month I paid $401 to put 2 more megabytes in PC clone. > That is a cost decrease of 64 and probably close to 100 if you > allow for inflation. Are typical applications 100 times bigger > than they were 8 years ago? I don't think so. 10 times maybe. >... Scientific applications tend to grow at a rate of about a factor of 100 every ten years. This is a figure that everyone in the industry tends to accept as a 'given'. I know people with specific applications that could use a factor of 1000 as soon as tomorrow! Lattice-guage theory calculations, for example, use 4 dimensional arrays (lattices). A factor of 1000 is only a factor of 5 in each of the 4 dimensions. Think how fast problems grow in the super-symmetry problems that operate in 10 dimensions - just doubling the lattice in each direction is a factor of 1024 in the memory requirement. J. Giles Los Alamos