Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!sdcsvax!celerity!jjw From: jjw@celerity.UUCP (Jim ) Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: VERY LARGE main memories Message-ID: <589@celerity.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Sep-86 12:15:56 EDT Article-I.D.: celerity.589 Posted: Tue Sep 30 12:15:56 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 6-Oct-86 18:43:02 EDT References: <1130@bu-cs.bu-cs.BU.EDU> <7144@lanl.ARPA> <7148@lanl.ARPA> <609@nike.UUCP> <7839@lanl.ARPA> <627@nike.UUCP> <7965@lanl.ARPA> Reply-To: jjw@celerity.UUCP (Jim (JJ) Whelan) Organization: Celerity Computing, San Diego, Ca. Lines: 31 Keywords: virtual memory The "anti-virtual" memory discussions seem to be concentrating on whether Supercomputers need virtual memory. Note that these machines are in a sense special purpose* machines with the following characteristics: They are pushing the "state of the art" in memory and processor design. They are intended for large scale, vectored, mostly floating point calculations. They are expensive to purchase and operate. They are usually sold and purchased to support a few computationally intensive applications (which may run for hours or days even on a Cray). In this environment virtual memory is probably a hindrance rather than a help. However, as time passes, larger memories and faster processors will be available for more conventional general purpose computers. I believe that virtual memory will be essential for the management of the larger memories in many of the environments in which these systems will be used. --------- * I know they are special purpose in the sense that they can perform any application which any other "general purpose" machine can perform. But, how many people purchase a Cray to do timesharing, text editing or business EDP? And if they do what do you suppose Seymore Cray's answer would be to someone who complains about the number of users who can get good emacs response?