Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!codas!peora!pesnta!phri!roy From: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Newsgroups: net.bio Subject: Re: What's this LIFE stuff? Message-ID: <2450@phri.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-Oct-86 12:33:11 EDT Article-I.D.: phri.2450 Posted: Fri Oct 10 12:33:11 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 12-Oct-86 04:43:13 EDT References: <7670@tekecs.UUCP> <812@hdsvx1.UUCP> <7706MIQ@PSUVMA> Reply-To: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Organization: Public Health Research Inst. (NY, NY) Lines: 33 Summary: alternates to DNA In article <7706MIQ@PSUVMA> James D. Maloy writes: > [...] could we bring DNA into the definition? Is it possible > (theoretically, anyway) for life to exist without it? If you are willing to concede that viruses are alive, then the answer is yes. There are viruses that use RNA as their genetic material instead of DNA. Of course, this is really sort of nit-picking. RNA and DNA are both nucleic acids that differ only in some fairly minor chemical details (don't try telling that to a hard-core structure person, though). As far as information storage goes, there is a trivial one-to-one mapping between the two. I don't see why there is any reason why you can't have living things without nucleic acid heteropolymers (i.e. DNA or RNA) being used for genetic storage. Of course, it wouldn't be life as we know it, but you could speculate about auto-replicating polypeptides or polysacharides. Both of these systems would maintain one of the basic properties of nucleic acid base genetic material; you can store information by stringing together strings of similar, but differentiable, building blocks. All three types of building blocks have consistant inter-block interfaces to simplify polymer construction and various side-chains to provide information storage and processing. Sounds sort of like Ritchie's streams, doesn't it? :-) There is no reason to believe that these systems exist, and to make them work would require revamping most of the metabolism of the cell, but I suppose they are possible. To go out on the speculative limb even further, do we even need to store genetic information in heteropolymers at all? I suppose not, but I can't imagine how it would work. -- Roy Smith, {allegra,philabs}!phri!roy System Administrator, Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016