Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!caip!clyde!cbatt!ukma!drew From: drew@ukma.uky.csnet (Andrew Lawson) Newsgroups: net.ai,net.cog-eng Subject: Re: Searle, Turing, Symbols, Categories (Question not comment) Message-ID: <4865@ukmf.ukma.uky.csnet> Date: Thu, 9-Oct-86 11:23:35 EDT Article-I.D.: ukmf.4865 Posted: Thu Oct 9 11:23:35 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 10-Oct-86 08:29:31 EDT References: <158@mind.UUCP> <150@cwrudg.UUCP> <160@mind.UUCP> Reply-To: drew@ukmf.UUCP (Andrew Lawson) Organization: U of Kentucky, Mathematical Sciences Lines: 20 Keywords: Robotics, Symbol-Crunching, Category Representation,Analog Representation, Induction Xref: mnetor net.ai:1181 net.cog-eng:280 In article <160@mind.UUCP> harnad@mind.UUCP (Stevan Harnad) writes: > >On my argument the distinction between the two versions is critical, >because the linguistic version can (in principle) be accomplished by >nothing but symbols-in/symbols-out (and symbols in between) whereas >the robotic version necessarily calls for non-symbolic processes >(transducer, effector, analog and A/D). This is not clear. When I look at my surroundings, you are no more than a symbol (just as is anything outside of my being). Remember that "symbol" is not rigidly defined most of the time. When I recognize the symbol of a car heading toward me, I respond by moving out of the way. This is not essentially different from a linguistic system recognizing a symbol and responding with another symbol. -- Drew Lawson cbosgd!ukma!drew "Parts is parts." drew@uky.csnet drew@UKMA.BITNET