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From: eugene@ames.UUCP (Eugene Miya)
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Subject: Re: Computer science vs. computer programming
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Date: Wed, 24-Sep-86 13:32:44 EDT
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Posted: Wed Sep 24 13:32:44 1986
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Be careful when you separate computer science and programming.
As I have said, too many times before:
It's going to be important for new computer science ideas to reach
programmers out "in the trenches."  There are too many older programmers
who are just COBOL and FORTRAN pushers who know nothing of modern
data structures, nothing about algorithms, networks?, UNIX?
workstations? Interactive programming (? "Wasteful of cycles....")
It's an incomplete argument to say that these "old timers" have to die off.

You have to be careful that the people in `Bob's Programming School'
get some exposure to these ideas because our technology changes so
quickly.  It's like a physics class I had in the public school system
taught by a guy who knew nothing of modern physics.
Don't make computer science an elite ivory tower, you will create
ideas which don't propagate until guys like marketeers (Osbornes
rather than Kays) come along.

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  NASA Ames Research Center
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