Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!rutgers!seismo!rochester!ritcv!rocksvax!rocksanne!sunybcs!colonel From: colonel@sunybcs.UUCP (Col. G. L. Sicherman) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: computer science vs. math Message-ID: <1122@sunybcs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 8-Oct-86 16:25:26 EDT Article-I.D.: sunybcs.1122 Posted: Wed Oct 8 16:25:26 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Oct-86 03:11:37 EDT References: <10202@cca.UUCP> <1729@mcc-pp.UUCP> <10332@cca.UUCP> Organization: DALEK Reproducing Equipment, Inc. Lines: 31 In article <10332@cca.UUCP>, g-rh@cca.UUCP (Richard Harter) writes: ) In article <> edwards@uwmacc.UUCP (mark edwards) writes: ) > I believe the roots of Lambda Calculus can be traced farther back ) > then that. People like liebnitz (sp ?) and others from the 12th -14th ) > century. And the notion of artificial intelligence to the same period ) > by I think Raoul (sp ?). One of my prof's showed my Computational ) > Linguistics Class a reference in Latin from a book from that period. ) > The words Artificial Intelligence were clearly distinguishable, even ) > though it was Latin. ) ... ) There was also a spaniard who had a logical wheel, resembling a ) circular slide rule. It had multiple disks, with each disk divided ) into categories. He was trying to create a universal reasoning machine. ) The date, however, was in the 1500s as I recall (I can't lay my hand on ) a reference at the moment.) That was Lully; his project was known afterwards as the Ars Magna Lulli. Then there's Kurd Lasswitz's Universal Library, as adapted by Borges ... I think the original argument is missing the point. Programmers don't use lambda calculus--even McCarthy would have to admit that--and they don't use recursion and iteration in the same way that mathematicians do. Programming practice is not based in mathematical theories; on the contrary, mathematicians have just begun trying to devise formal theories of "real" programs. The first time a student writes "N=N+1", he has stepped out of the old mathematical universe and into a new world. -- Col. G. L. Sicherman UU: ...{rocksvax|decvax}!sunybcs!colonel CS: colonel@buffalo-cs BI: colonel@sunybcs, csdsiche@sunyabvc