Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!qantel!hplabs!tektronix!tekcrl!tekirl!donch From: donch@tekirl.UUCP (Don Chitwood) Newsgroups: net.cycle Subject: Re: another starter problem; a started problem. Message-ID: <192@tekirl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Sep-86 13:20:30 EDT Article-I.D.: tekirl.192 Posted: Fri Sep 19 13:20:30 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Sep-86 18:09:07 EDT References: <5301@decwrl.DEC.COM> <572@imagen.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR Lines: 31 My Guzzi periodically has a similar set of symptoms. I discovered the cause and it's fairly easy to fix. The Guzzi's starter is a spittin' image of a standard car starter, except that it's about 1/2 the size. As such, it uses a standard type solenoid that functions both to engage the starter gear with the flywheel and to make connection with the battery directly to the starter motor. The contacts inside the solenoid were at fault. By taking out two screws that hold the end-cap onto the solenoid, then unsoldering the two wires that are fastened to the spade-lugs on the end-cap, the contacts inside the solenoid are revealed in all their ugliness. When the described problem arises, these contacts are invariably much blackened and making dubious contact. I take some sandpaper and clean them up real good, reassemble it, and have no more problems for another 20,000 miles or so. Sometimes, when my battery is low for various reasons, the solenoid will clatter--oscillate like a vibrator--because of too little juice. The only cure then is to trickle-charge the battery, get a jump-start from a car, or bump-start the bike. I've done all three, each at least once under adverse conditions (try bump-starting a 525-lb bike in a level parking lot in 95 degree heat!) Regarding treatment of me on my bike by cops, I've only had one really bad experience and it was not abusive but rather legalistically rigorous. Another cop stopped me for speeding once and spent a good 20 minutes talking computers and hi-tech stuff. He was very interesting, but I think he was also trying to slow me down by taking time to be casual. He also gave me a ticket! Several cops have stopped me to warn me against speeding even tho they admitted they hadn't gotten a reading on me (they were right; my most comfortable speed owing to a vibration minimum is 65-70 mph.)