Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!rutgers!sri-spam!sri-unix!hplabs!hpcea!hpfcdc!hpfcms!niland From: niland@hpfcms.HP.COM ( Bob Niland ) Newsgroups: net.cycle Subject: Daytime high vs low beam Message-ID: <730004@hpfcms.HP.COM> Date: Fri, 3-Oct-86 20:44:15 EDT Article-I.D.: hpfcms.730004 Posted: Fri Oct 3 20:44:15 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 8-Oct-86 21:53:03 EDT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Lines: 61 re: Motorcyles running high beams during the day I used to ride but gave it up because I concluded that it was too dangerous; more specifically, there are too many hazards that are not under the control of the rider: oil patches, sand patches, dropped mufflers and automobile drivers suffering from "fouropia" (the inability to see other vehicles having less than four wheels). After nearly being hit head-on one day by a left-turning fouropian driver, I began running with my bike headlights on all the time (this is in the early 70s). This practice dramatically reduced near misses with the 4-wheel bike bashers. Nonetheless, I soon gave up biking (I couldn't afford both a bike and a car then, and Maine gets cold in the winter). Bikes running headlights during the day is "a good idea". Many of you follow this policy, and I encourage it. Unfortunately, a large number of bikers (seems like 30% sometimes) apparently think that "golly gee, if having headlights on during the day is safe, then using HIGH BEAMS must be even safer!". I disagree. Night or day, I find an oncoming bike with high beams to be very uncomfortable, if not painful, to watch. Low beams is ok ("yes, I see you"). High beams drives me to avert my gaze to prevent irritiation ("I hope you see me, because I refuse to watch you"). My reaction to an oncoming highbeamer is "gosh, that's an inconsiderate way to ride*". So rather than increased safety, we have decreased safety. I do not see the highbeamer signalling to turn left. I may not see the highbeamer drifting towards me. If I have the rising/setting sun behind me, neither of us may see the other. Now I'm sure you personally don't do this, but please tell your riding friends to be aware this issue. Is it possible that riders aren't running high beams deliberately? Would it help if I switched my lights on and flashed? Or, is there some incredibly obvious reason why bike run high beams during the day? Could someone explain it to me? Regards, Hewlett-Packard Bob Niland 3404 East Harmony Road [ihnp4|hplabs]!hpfcla!rjn Fort Collins CO 80525 . . . . . . . . . . . . * Actually I start fantasizing about filament-seeking missiles and 300 megawatt focused flashtube arrays... but then, I'm just a nice peaceful guy. The redneck in the pickup truck in front of me, however, is probably getting really pissed, and contemplating running the bike off the road.