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From: barmar@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: net.emacs
Subject: Re: MS-DOS emacs??
Message-ID: <3421@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 9-Oct-86 21:42:22 EDT
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Posted: Thu Oct  9 21:42:22 1986
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Boy, there's alot of "Stallman Emacs" misinformation flying around the
net these days.

>From: gary@darth.UUCP (Gary Wisniewski)
>
>For those strictly interested in EMACS, there's the one from Unipress.
>...
>I use Epsilon (an EMACS clone) and am extremely satisfied.

Epsilon is as compatible with the original Stallman EMACS (see below for
more on this term) as Unipress EMACS is (actually, I am basing this on
some use of Gosling Emacs, but Unipress EMACS is a descendent of that).
The only Unix Emacs I know of that made a concerted attempt to be
compatible in look and feel to Stallman's EMACS was Zimmerman's, which
then became CCA EMACS.

>From: rs@mirror.UUCP
>
>When you say "complete Stallman EMACS" you're probably referring to the
>original, Stallman's TWENEX (DECsystem-20) emacs written in TECO.

The original was written for ITS (Incompatible Timesharing System, for
the PDP-10).  It was later ported to TOPS-20.

>....  HOWEVER, Stallman is currently most
>known for GNU emacs, and it would be a mistake if people thought
>Unipress was selling something they aren't.

Depends on who you ask.  If it weren't for ITS EMACS, none of the rest
would exist today.  We'd all be floundering in VI or Z.  If Stallman's
name goes down in computer history, I personally hope that he is
remembered for the original EMACS; GNU is good, but it hasn't yet had
the impact on the industry that EMACS has.
-- 
    Barry Margolin
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