Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ukma!sambo From: sambo@ukma.uky.csnet (Father of micro-ln) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: 386 PC vs Sun Message-ID: <4810@ukmf.ukma.uky.csnet> Date: Tue, 30-Sep-86 01:49:26 EDT Article-I.D.: ukmf.4810 Posted: Tue Sep 30 01:49:26 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Sep-86 14:46:38 EDT References: <4104@brl-smoke.ARPA> <1038@gilbbs.UUCP> Reply-To: sambo@ukmf.UUCP (Father of micro-ln) Organization: U of Kentucky, Mathematical Sciences Lines: 24 In article <1038@gilbbs.UUCP> mc68020@gilbbs.UUCP (Thomas J Keller) writes: >In article <4104@brl-smoke.ARPA>, roberts@NBS-VMS.arpa (ROBERTS, JOHN) writes: >> Remember that a 32-bit 80386 running at 16MHz is in the performance >> class of a 32-bit 68020 running at ~16MHz.... > > Yeah, maybe. But it's still got the same braindamaged instruction set and > register complement as the 80286, 80186, 8086, 8080, 8008. In otherwords > it is a 32 bit high speed microcontroller chip. Intel *STILL* hasn't > learned how to make *COMPUTERS*. (I doubt they ever will) I beg to differ. The 80386 has the same braindamaged instruction set only if you refuse to use the new instructions and addressing modes it has. About the only truly special purpose registers, if my memory serves me cor- rectly, are the stack pointer, the instruction pointer, and a few special status registers. It still is not the cleanest architecture, but it is quite a bit improved from previous family members. For me, the advantages are that its speed is fairly decent, and it can run MS-DOS (which is itself brain- damaged) programs in a multi-user, multi-tasking environment. Unfortunately, it is impossible to ignore MS-DOS software. -- Samuel A. Figueroa, Dept. of CS, Univ. of KY, Lexington, KY 40506-0027 UUCP: cbosgd!ukma!sambo CSNET: sambo@uky.csnet "Micro-ln is great, if only people would start using it."