Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Re: C128 vs Apple //e Message-ID: <284@neoucom.UUCP> Date: Sat, 27-Sep-86 12:21:43 EDT Article-I.D.: neoucom.284 Posted: Sat Sep 27 12:21:43 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Sep-86 04:52:20 EDT References: <9800030@uiucuxa> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 43 Summary: cpu clock speed faster in c128 [Line eater, get me.] Hi, It's been a while since I was dabbling on a c128. I do remember, though, that under certain circumstances the cpu on the c128 is run at 2.04 MHz, rather than the "standard" 1.02 MHz. Don't quote me on this, but I think it was durring the CRT retrace times that the cpu is running faster on the c128. Naturally, Commodore wasn't first to cook the idea up. Remeber the ill fated Apple III ran its cpu faster in the CRT retrace time. Comparing the c128 and apple II against the IBM pc is interesting, as in the normal precision mode, the IBM basica only carries 6 -7 digits of accuracy while apple and commodore carry typically 10-11 digits. Scrolling text on the 80 col screen is where the speed of the apple IIe is really sapped since the poor cpu has to do handstands to move the text around in the oddball memory map. (I wrote a subroutine in machine language to scroll down to augment the built in code that scrolls up.) I've always wondered why a decent text memory map wasn't designed in to the Apple II at the outset, as even in 1976, it would have added less than $5 to the cost of the components in the machine. I saw a review of the new //GS on TV, and they were loading an image, and it came up with the familiar fill-in-between the lines fashion of the II. Perhaps this was just done for "effect" to disolve the screen. I sure was hoping the GS would have a mode with a contiguous bit map to make manipulations easier (and faster). Perhaps, the 128K quickdraw ROM in the GS will be a relief, and I won't have to do the dogwork of figuring out how to make the hardware dance nicely. --Bill Bill Mayhew Division of Basic Medical Sciences Northeastern Ohio Universities' College of Medicine Rootstown, Ohio 44272 USA 216-325-2511 (wtm@neoucom.UUCP)