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From: rick@seismo.CSS.GOV (Rick Adams)
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Subject: Re: The Motorola 68030
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Date: Fri, 26-Sep-86 12:39:28 EDT
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Posted: Fri Sep 26 12:39:28 1986
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Summary: sun is no better
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In article <7637@sun.uucp>, cmcmanis@sun.uucp (Chuck McManis) writes:
> Ah yes another volley in the "Well this stuff is OK but look at what we will
> have next year!" contest. Anyone for starting a "Best Announced but not
> yet available product" award? 

Well, we ordered the several Floating Point Accelerators from Sun
back in August 1985 (as soon as they were announced). We still haven't
seen them, nor heard a ship date.

I've heard that they were shipping 5 or 6 times now.

We have seen great benchmark results from Sun though....

I vote for the sun FPA, it looks great on paper. (The GKS product is
also unobtainable, despite being in the catalog for about a year. However,
it is no where near as impressive as the FPA.)

I talked to someone who actually had his hands on one, so they may
be really shipping them now.  He may have had a beta test version though.
I wouldn't call them available until you can actually get one without
waiting a year. (Hmm. A year is about what you are complaining about with
Motorola)

---rick

P.S Aside from the FPA and GKS vaporware, we are happy Sun customers.

(Although I wish they would quit gratuitiously changing the way programs
worked. My latest example is that repquota no longer prints disk usage
for people without quotas UNLESS you specify a flag. It would have been
backwards compatible to have a flag to supress printing disk usage
for people with no quotas. Oh well, it only took me an hour to
figure out way the quota system "wasn't working" anymore. I hate surprises.)