Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ucbvax!AMES-NAS.ARPA!fouts From: fouts@AMES-NAS.ARPA Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16 Subject: Re: MAC emulator (ROM Legality) Message-ID: <8609261614.AA20837@ames-nas.ARPA> Date: Fri, 26-Sep-86 12:14:43 EDT Article-I.D.: ames-nas.8609261614.AA20837 Posted: Fri Sep 26 12:14:43 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Sep-86 03:18:28 EDT References: <3651@ism780c.UUCP> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 34 Magic Sac itself doesn't include any Apple code. Rather, you must buy a set of ROMs from Apple yourself. Although not yet tested in court, there is precedence in the assumption that Apple cannot restrict sales of the ROMs to people who don't own MacIntoshes, stemming from the observation that mainframe vendors are required to sell their software to customers of plug compatable machines. (We run MVS and VM on our Amdahls, for example.) The same assumption is being applied to the system and finder images which are also required to make Magic Sac work. I bought my system and finder from a licensed Apple developer. His license with Apple allows him to include system and finder images in the software he sells, and (he claims, I haven't read it) does not restrict him to sales only to Apple owners. However, Apple will not allow Data Pacific to resell the ROMs, or license Data Pacific for the system and finder images. This is also in accordance with precedence. (We get our MVS from IBM not Amdahl.) There are three separate legal issues in the Magic Sac, all of which Data Pacific believes they have correctly handled. The first two are the ROMS and system images mentioned above. The third is if Magic itself violates any Apple copyrights or patents. Since Magic is only a translator which intercepts some of the behavior of the Macintosh software and makes it work on the Atari hardware, rather than an emulator, it looks to me as if it doesn't violate any copyrights, etc. Marty ----------