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From: manis@ubc-cs.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16
Subject: Re: Action!, FaST BASIC and cartridges
Message-ID: <420@ubc-cs.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 26-Sep-86 11:23:06 EDT
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Posted: Fri Sep 26 11:23:06 1986
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Reply-To: manis@ubc-cs.UUCP (Vincent Manis)
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In article <1095@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> braner@batcomputer.UUCP
(braner) writes:

>Then of course, if a certain language is your DAILY working environment
>you would like it in ROM.  How about an OPTION of getting it on a cartridge,
>in addition to the disk version, which is more appropriate for other buyers?

Well, TDI Modula-2/ST is my DAILY working environment. Including the
compiler, linker, editor, debugger, etc., etc., it adds up to about 800K (of
which about 500K lives on a ramdisk). Any ideas how I fit that onto a 128K
cartridge?

In any case, what do I do when TDI comes out with an upgrade? Throw away
my cartridge? Have a disk with ram patches?

The TOS experience should have demonstrated that getting a frozen program
to live in rom is non-trivial. (Apple did it, and then they realised that
the Mac file system was stupid: so they had to come out with a new operating
system with a file system in ram, and then a new machine with new roms.)

Re co-processors: that would seem to be reasonable, but I still want the
TT box which plugs into the DMA port. The 68000 doesn't coexist well with
co-processors (unlike the 68020), and, although you can do it, the effort 
might not be justified.