Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!rutgers!caip!pyrnj!mirror!cca!lmi-angel!wsr From: wsr@lmi-angel.UUCP (Wolfgang Rupprecht) Newsgroups: net.micro.68k,net.micro.amiga,net.micro.atari16,net.micro.mac Subject: Re: The Motorola 68030 Message-ID: <82@lmi-angel.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Sep-86 22:51:09 EDT Article-I.D.: lmi-ange.82 Posted: Tue Sep 30 22:51:09 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 3-Oct-86 00:50:14 EDT References: <2270@gitpyr.UUCP> Reply-To: wsr@lmi-angel.UUCP (Wolfgang Rupprecht) Organization: LISP Machine, Inc (Cambridge Engineering HQ) Lines: 22 Xref: mnetor net.micro.68k:1298 net.micro.amiga:4974 net.micro.atari16:2251 net.micro.mac:7346 In article <> hadeishi@husc4.UUCP (mitsuharu hadeishi) writes: >[random discussion about 68030]... Now that Motorola >has released this chip [well, no, they will release it in a year from >now.. -wsr], they have in *every category of chip* a far >superior chip than does Intel. 68030 > 80386, 68020 > 80286, 68010 and >68000 >> 80186, 8086, 68008 > 8088. The 68000 series chips are in every case >more orthogonally designed, faster, more compatible with each other, >and easier to program. Up to now I have always hated intel chips. In general they are *so* contorted/poorly thought out, (some would even say buggy). Up to now that is. I'm ready to to believe in 80386's. Lets face it, the lack of *usable* memory management for the 68000 is laughable. The 68020 mmu is still vapor-hardware. When it finally arrives, one gets a chip that has to have *lots* of logic around it just to allow it to work in the same circuits that the 68020 used to work in. It will run *much* slower than the 68020 however. Remember, the 68020 is in the same generation as the 80386. (lets hear some applause for intel.) -- Wolfgang Rupprecht {harvard|decvax!cca|mit-eddie}!lmi-angel!wsr