Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!hplabs!tektronix!reed!iscuva!jimc From: jimc@iscuva.UUCP (Jim Cathey) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Keyboard Layout Message-ID: <260@iscuva.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Sep-86 16:57:31 EDT Article-I.D.: iscuva.260 Posted: Fri Sep 19 16:57:31 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Sep-86 22:15:38 EDT Distribution: net Organization: ISC Systems Corporation, Spokane, Wa. Lines: 67 Arrrrrggghhhhhh! *** Warning, keyboard layout flame ahead... I think I must be a member of the (or a) 'silent majority' when I state that I much prefer the layout of the original Mac keyboard to that abomination placed on the Mac+. I think the first keyboard is wonderful, GOOD JOB, GUYS! That damned numeric pad is in the way of my mouse! I like placing the mouse right next to the keyboard, just about where cursor control keys are placed on lesser machines. I have to reach too far on a Mac+. I agree with the original decision to have a separate numeric pad for those bean-counters among us who need one, and not penalize the rest of us who don't. The new placements of the Command and Option keys are awful. The dinky right shift key is particularly annoying. I am a fairly quick and sloppy typist, and I don't like having to pussyfoot around my shift keys to keep from hitting other junk. I preferred the left-hand/right-hand symmetry of the Option keys on the original keyboard. It made for less hand-cramping when using them. I would have preferred the Caps-lock and Command keys to be exchanged. (I have since gotten used to curling my left thumb for Command rather than the more familiar pinkie-push). Caps-lock is not actuated nearly as much as Command, so why put it in the more valuable position? Dvorak's recent whining about the dimples on D and K keys is totally non-sensical. We did our keyboard that way. The dimples go there for exactly the same reason the dimple goes on a 5 key and not the 6 key in a numeric pad. Think about it... (hint, hold your hand up and look at it). I don't care where the \ and ` keys are on a keyboard. They could be on the bottom and still be close enough. They should NOT displace vitally important keys such as Backspace, Return, and Shift. All of these should be big, close to the home position, and have free space nearby for finger mash room. I think that the Mac+ keyboard was designed by renegade left-handed (you can bet the pad isn't in the way of THEIR mouse!) piano designers from DEC.... (DEC's keyboard anthem: WI-DER, MORE-KEYS, WI-DER, MORE-KEYS, ...) ((Actually I think the VT-220 keyboard was designed for executives, who equate key count with corporate status. The Mac+ keyboard designers are aware of this and didn't want businessmen to pooh-pooh the Mac+ because it doesn't have enough keys.)) Remember, high-speed typists care where keys go. The rest don't. Keyboards are almost always designed by some guy who can't type, and who feels that a perfectly rectangular cutout in the case and the color of the legends are THE most important things. Need I say more? ***** Applying CO here. 2 Sorry, folks, that has been building up for some time. Am I really alone out here? -- +----------------+ ! II CCCCCC ! Jim Cathey ! II SSSSCC ! ISC Systems Corp. ! II CC ! Spokane, WA ! IISSSS CC ! UUCP: ihnp4!tektronix!reed!iscuva!jimc ! II CCCCCC ! (509)927-5757 +----------------+ "With excitement like this, who is needing enemas?"