Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!think!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!wanginst!wang!ephraim From: ephraim@wang.UUCP (pri=8 Ephraim Vishniac x76659 ms1459) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac,net.unix Subject: Re: Re: Porting UNIX Applications to the Mac Message-ID: <864@wang.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Sep-86 08:15:13 EDT Article-I.D.: wang.864 Posted: Tue Sep 23 08:15:13 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 24-Sep-86 23:40:39 EDT References: <1572@cbdkc1.UUCP> <1091@hoptoad.uucp> Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA Lines: 24 Xref: mnetor net.micro.mac:7179 net.unix:5633 > To add to the mouse vs vi editors debate, I will tell my story. Ditto. > I have NEVER had ANY experience with vi removing text and doing the > wierd things that the previous posters have stated, even when I was a > beginner with vi. It has ALWAYS been the best editor I have used. The problem here is that people are comparing apples and oranges. Everyone's using an editor called "vi". Some satisfied users are using it on dedicated workstations or local terminals on lightly loaded systems. Some complainers are using it on dial-up lines or heavily loaded systems. When I was in the latter group, I found the cursor keys virtually useless. They send a series of characters, and vi rarely managed to buffer and interpret the sequence correctly. Sure enough, lines disappeared leaving random garbage in their place. I've been in the former group, also (sort of): I've used Z, Manx's vi look-alike on the Mac. It's a 100% different experience. If you like keyboard-only editors, you'll love it. So now will everybody shut up about this?