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From: dwb@well.UUCP (David W. Berry)
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Subject: Re: Easy of programming, Mac, Amiga
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Date: Thu, 25-Sep-86 09:03:44 EDT
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In article <172@apple.UUCP> lsr@apple.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) writes:
>I think if you go back a couple of months in BYTE you will find Bruce
>Webster's column comparing the Mac, Amiga, and Atari ST in a few informal
>benchmarks.  I seem to recall that the Macintosh disks were faster than
>either the Amiga's or Atari's and that the Amiga graphics were faster for
>things that could be done in hardware (lines or rectangles) but that other
>things (such as text) were slower.
Or must be done by hand, as is the case with rounded rectangles, ellipses,
arcs, or polylines...  all things which the Mac ROM's handle, but the
Amiga user must figure out for himself.

To me it seems relatively clear that this discussion has degenerated
from a technically informative one into a religious war.  No offense,
Larry, you were getting the thing back onto technical footing, the
general drift has just been downward.  From all indications I would
have to say that both machines have their advantages, both from a
user and a programmer standpoint.  Each machine has features built
into it's primitives that are advantageous and those that are badly
misimplemented or not implemented at all.  Apple certainly should have
done something more about multi-tasking.  Amiga should have more
Graphics primitives.  Apple seems to have thought out the process
of internationalization and customization much more thoroughly than
Amiga did.  Resources can be used to drastically change the appearance
of an application without needing to recompile the program or take
a debugger to it.  At one time their was a set of resources floating
around which would give an application apple shaped windows.  Could
the Amiga do that without patching the operating system?  Amiga
has come up with what seems to be a cleaner interface for the 
programmer to use, primarily because there is much less to learn
to use it.

In short, both machines have their advantages and disadvantages
and further presentation of fact and misfact and arguments til
we're blue in the face aren't really going to change anybody's
minds.  I still think the Mac is a great machine and would rather
be developing software for it than for the Amiga.  I have good
friends that feel the same way about the Amiga.  I respect that.
In the future can we move the discussion from one of "My machine
can do this and yours can't.  So there.  Nyah, Nyah, Nyah."  To
a more constructive one of "Hey, I really like this about the
my machine.  How can I do it on yours too?

Flames to /dev/nsa, they need all the mail they can get...

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