Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!hoptoad!farren From: farren@hoptoad.uucp (Mike Farren) Newsgroups: net.micro.68k,net.micro.amiga,net.micro.atari16,net.micro.mac Subject: Re: The Motorola 68030 Message-ID: <1165@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Tue, 30-Sep-86 23:55:57 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.1165 Posted: Tue Sep 30 23:55:57 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 2-Oct-86 21:11:46 EDT References: <2270@gitpyr.UUCP> <7637@sun.uucp> <729@sauron.UUCP> <200@mipos3.UUCP> <280@husc6.HARVARD.EDU> Reply-To: farren@hoptoad.UUCP (Mike Farren) Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 35 Keywords: here we go again... Xref: mnetor net.micro.68k:1288 net.micro.amiga:4965 net.micro.atari16:2234 net.micro.mac:7336 In article <280@husc6.HARVARD.EDU> hadeishi@husc4.UUCP (mitsuharu hadeishi) writes: > >'020s are used (as you all know) in Sun workstations, TurboAmigas, etc. >'286s are used in ATs. There is really no comparison between the two >classes of machine. That's true - there's over 10 times as many '286 machines out there. There really ISN'T a comparison... > > Another important point to make is that operating systems implemented on >the 68000 series chips will run fairly well on the higher-grade chips; >UNIX, AmigaDos/Intuition, Mac Operating System, ST GEM/TOS, et cetera are >all capable of taking advantage of the higher-level chips' capabilities Depends entirely on the foresight and ability of the systems programmer (about whom, in most cases, I have grave doubts). Mac OS dies on anything higher than a 68000... > >'386 do? Run character-stream UNIX and 640K MS-DOS? You betcha. At the same time. Quickly. With graphics additions as hardware/ software becomes available. I have said before and I will say again now - religious chip wars are useless and S*T*U*P*I*D. All of the debate and struggle gains you not one thing. Personally, I'd rather be aware of and comfortable with as many of the different architectures/chips/systems available - it makes me that much more employable (and that much more affluent). When I look at what power I have sitting on my desk now, IBM *OR* Amiga or whatever, and compare it with the most powerful computers available when I started in this business, I find it really hard to bitch too much about a chip - even, god help me, the 6502. -- ---------------- "... if the church put in half the time on covetousness Mike Farren that it does on lust, this would be a better world ..." hoptoad!farren Garrison Keillor, "Lake Wobegon Days"