Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!topaz!rutgers!sri-spam!mordor!lll-crg!lll-lcc!well!das From: das@well.UUCP (David Shayer) Newsgroups: net.micro.68k,net.micro.amiga,net.micro.atari16,net.micro.mac Subject: Re: The Motorola 68030 Message-ID: <1870@well.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-Oct-86 01:41:08 EDT Article-I.D.: well.1870 Posted: Thu Oct 2 01:41:08 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Oct-86 05:35:12 EDT References: <2270@gitpyr.UUCP> <262@husc6.HARVARD.EDU> <877@Shasta.STANFORD.ED Organization: Whole Earth Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 35 Xref: watmath net.micro.68k:1912 net.micro.amiga:5078 net.micro.atari16:2297 net.micro.mac:8076 U> >>In article <262@husc6.HARVARD.EDU> hadeishi@husc4.UUCP (mitsuharu hadeishi) writes: >>Now that Motorola >>has released this chip, they have in *every category of chip* a far >>superior chip than does Intel. >I agree that the Motorola chips are nicer in many ways than the Intel chips. >But to say Motorola has "released" the chip is stretching things a bit. Not >only has the 68030 not been formally introduced as a product yet, but the >artciles I've read (e.g., Electronics, September 18, 1986) say volume >production is more than a year away. The 80386 is here now, and actually >has a system available (Compaq) which uses it. In other words, it's not >really fair to compare that which Intel has now with what Motorola will have >in a year. A more fair comparison is between the 68020 and the 80386. To say that Compaq has "released" an 80386 based computer is stretching things a bit too, don't you think. They announced it, but said it would be available after January. This is similar to what Motorola announced. By the way, IBM is said to be readying an announcment in January for their 80386 based machine, which will be available in June. And don't forget that a multitasking operating system won't be available until around June either. Until then, these 80386 machines are just big fast PC's. Meanwhile, Apple is readying a 68020 based machine for release early next year. Isn't vaporware fun! ----------------------- David Shayer @ the Well "Most of the time, for most programmers, what a compiler produces is not object code, but error messages."