Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!caip!dayton!rosevax!hogan From: hogan@rosevax.UUCP (Andy Hogan) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Keyboard Layout Message-ID: <650@rosevax.UUCP> Date: Sat, 4-Oct-86 10:21:57 EDT Article-I.D.: rosevax.650 Posted: Sat Oct 4 10:21:57 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 6-Oct-86 18:50:09 EDT References: <260@iscuva.UUCP> <884@ssc-vax.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Rosemount Inc., Eden Prairie, MN Lines: 45 Summary: Cramps In article <884@ssc-vax.UUCP>, brian@ssc-vax.UUCP (Brian Fenske) writes: > > Arrrrrggghhhhhh! > > I think I must be a member of the (or a) 'silent majority' when I state > > that I much prefer the layout of the original Mac keyboard to that > > abomination placed on the Mac+. I think the first keyboard is wonderful, > > > I wouldn't go that far. See below. > > > > No, Jim, you aren't alone. Since I bought my first Mac two years > ago, I have always felt that overall it was the best personal > computer on the market, except for the keyboard. I'll probably draw > some fire for saying so but to me the #@% PC has the best FEEL of > any keyboard I've used, terminals included. It's LAYOUT and number > of keys is lousy but the touch is just right. The Mac's is too > high, too clunky and (agreeing with Jim) the keys are in the wrong I'll toss in my two bits in support of Brian and Jim. I was VERY dissapointed in the Mac keyboard. I was reasonably sure I would be when I saw (in pictures) that the profile did not conform to the (at that time new) DIN standard. Those low-profile keyboards are very comfortable to type on. Another point: are the keys on the Mac keyboard just a tisch closer together than most? My hands cramp when I use it for a long period of time, and I suspect it's because I hold my hands at a sharper angle to each other than on other keyboards. I won't say much about key placements, because I don't have a Mac+ keyboard, and my general experience is that changing from one to another is not too tough (unless you include one Dvorak in the bunch :-) ). I use three different ones here at work, and the Mac's at home, and have very little trouble with all the different key placements. BTW, the one I like best is the one I'm using now-- the new 'enhanced' IBM PC keyboard. Height, feel, and most key placements are excellent, and I finally have separate cursor and number keys !!!!!!! As long as Apple is admitting the need for MS DOS interfacing, they would do well to learn a bit about keyboards from big blue, too. -- Notice how they do not so much fly, as plummet. {appropriate head movement} --Monty Python (Flying Sheep Sketch) Andy Hogan Rosemount, Inc. Mpls MN path: ...ihnp4!stolaf!umn-cs!mmm!rosevax!hogan