Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-spam!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!lapis!oster From: oster@lapis.berkeley.edu (David Phillip Oster) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Dataframe 20 and killer DA's Message-ID: <1395@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Wed, 8-Oct-86 20:20:14 EDT Article-I.D.: jade.1395 Posted: Wed Oct 8 20:20:14 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 10-Oct-86 00:09:08 EDT References: <1312@utastro.UUCP> <1392@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: fritz@utastro.UUCP (Fritz Benedict) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 33 Keywords: Dataframe 20 DA's incompatible In article <1312@utastro.UUCP> fritz@utastro.UUCP (Fritz Benedict) writes: >...Kill DAs > Stars 1.1 As the author of Stars, I assure you that Stars 1.3 works fine on my DataFrame 20, but please, please, everybody use the current version of my stuff, if you're going to use my stuff at all. I work hard to get the bugs out before I post, and I try to be responsive to bug reports - I have to, I have nightmares about people losing work because of my bugs. If the current version still gives problems, let me know the symptoms. (once again, I've had no problems.) I will either fix the problem and broadcast to the net, or publically warn people away from my software. And like you, I've got too much pride in my work and my skills to take that latter step lightly. In answer to Peter Korn: Although Stars does write directly to screen memory, I use the Apple aproved method of finding out where screen memory is. For example, Stars works just fine on a Mac XL, which not only has the screen in a different place, it also has a different shaped screen! I use Menu Clock instead of JClock (no surprise, I wrote Menu Clock over a year ago.) the current version is version 2.1, and it quite solid. It is even compatible with Stars, something JClock is not. Killer DAs: some applications don't call ALL the Mac's Init... routines. For example, a graphics program might not call TEInit(); Now, suppose you bring up a DA like MockWrite, that uses TextEdit. It must assume that TextEdit was initialized by the application, it would be an error to call TEInit() a second time. Result: the desk accessory gets a bad rep, but it was the application's fault. --- David Phillip Oster -- "The goal of Computer Science is to Arpa: oster@lapis.berkeley.edu -- build something that will last at Uucp: ucbvax!ucblapis!oster -- least until we've finished building it."