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From: cramer@kontron.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Poor People/Lazy People
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Date: Fri, 10-Oct-86 17:04:40 EDT
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Posted: Fri Oct 10 17:04:40 1986
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> --
> > chris@minnie.UUCP (Chris Grevstad) adds:
> > >Hear hear!!!  Where people get the notion that someone has a claim on my
> > >wealth only by virtue of being a member of the same society I will never
> > >know.
> > >
> > >I have no problems helping those who really need help, but I refuse to
> > >finance the activities of those who have no interest in helping themselves.
> > 
> > I second both motions...
> > I still see the same people in the same projects,
> > on the same welfare, "help wanted" signs notwithstanding.  (BTW, this 
> > is in a part of the country where one *can* live on minimum wage.  At
> > one point, my friends said I was crazy for spending $310/month for a 
> > one-bedroom apartment.)
> > 
> > -Ed Horch
> 
> The question is not whether these shiftless and lazy (didn't you forget
> "dirty"?) folks have a claim on your wealth.  The question is whether
> you have obligations to people you don't even know.  If you've got
> any semblance of ethics in your yuppie, designer brains you know that
> you *do* have such obligations.  So spare me your lookin'-out-for-ol'-
> number-one pseudo-moral pseudo-outrage.  If those unwashed low-lifes
> knew how lame you are they'd murder you in your sleep.
> 
> ken perlow       *****   *****

Gee, Ken.  You mean we are obligated to help people too lazy to work?
Why?

And I'm glad you admit what low moral caliber the welfare class really 
is -- willing to murder us in our sleep for disagreeing with your
desire to force the rest of us to support them.

Clayton E. Cramer